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Watch this space for the latest news and happenings in the Victorian Scrabble scene, and to find lots of information and to check on news from the past click on the links at left. Your social reporter is Marj Miller, and to pass on any news click here
Essendon ~ Sunday October 1 ~ 7 games ~ at Box Hill
Seniors Social Day ~ THURSDAY October 12 ~ 3 games ~ at Mount Waverley
Geelong ~ SATURDAY October 14 ~ 6 games ~ at Geelong
SA/Vic Border Challenge ~ Sat/Sunday 21/22 October ~ 10 games ~ at Horsham
For full details of all tournaments click HERE
The Peninsula Tournament, September 17 2017
The spacious playing area at the Mount Eliza
This was the first year for the ASPA committee-run Peninsula Tournament, formerly the Mt Martha Tournament which had been ably run by Julie Belle and the members of the Mt Martha Scrabble Club. The venue is very spacious and popular but it amazes me how people still get lost finding it! Three players who regularly attend each year had trouble finding it, with one of them only coming from Mornington - just up the road!
Thirty four players took part including standby player Pat Weston from Geelong who had come along to catch up with old friends at the tournament. Pat went on to win the C Section of the tournament and came away a very happy winner. Also of note in this section was Trish Magee's score of 529, well done, Trish.
In the A Section, local player Jane McDonnell proved a very formidable player - winning 4 games of 6 and gaining 51 rating points. We are certainly encouraging her to play in other tournaments but alas, not too successfully. Carol Johnsen's opponent's lament of "I've only had 1 blank all day" was not answered when in a seemingly blocking move to place an S in front of QUIZ, he had created the opportunity for her to have a triple-timer BEASTIES for 144 and highest game (with both blanks). Alan Burn was leading for most of the day but his last game was not fruitful and Gwen Lampre won through to take first place.
Relative newcomer to the Scrabble scene, Phil Moller, took out first place in B Section with 6 wins and a healthy gain of 118 rating points. He is keenly waiting for the Decathon where he can play 10 games in a day! Unfortunately, a player left after lunch due to illness and there were 3 byes, however these would not have affected the placings.
Division C: Balada Catanchin, Geoff Gittus,
and the winner Pat Weston
Division B high achievers: winner Phil Moller
and Glen Chandler
Division A: Carol Johnsen, Alan Burn and
first placed Gwen Lampre
Great concentration shown by Dianne Davis,
an important part of doing well in Scrabble
Andrew Fisher is the 2017 Australian Masters Champ, and Victoria wins the State Team Challenge!
September 9/10, in Adelaide, South Australia
Andrew Fisher with the Masters perpetual trophy, and
South Australian President Oliver Jenner O'Shea
Defending Champ and second placed Joanne Craig,
with Oliver Jenner O'Shea
Daniel Piechnick finished in third place, seen here
at Presentations with Oliver
Technical matters - Daniel Piechnick checking, with
Oliver Jenner O'Shea and Trevor Tao
The Champion State Team, from Victoria - Gwen
Lampre, Carol Johnsen and Norma Fisher
The top individual player in the Teams event, Edie
Mueller, a second time winner of this title
John Hamilton from the A.C.T. plays Norma Fisher
Play in progress - foreground - Ryan Sutton & Rod
Talbot, with Oliver Jenner O'Shea & Barry Harridge
The top Individual Player Award within the State Team Challenge event was won by Edie Mueller from Western Australia for her 14 wins from 18 games played, a great effort indeed. Second place went to Norma Fisher on 13 wins, with John Spaan from the A.C.T. placing third on 11 wins.
Thanks go to the whole team from South Australian Scrabble for organising this event so well, many people were involved behind the scenes - Oliver Jenner-O'Shea, Adam, Antony, Jacqui, Mel, Tony, Susan, Larrie, Margaret, Tracy, and many more who assisted with various tasks over the weekend - and Barry Harridge for directing the major events, and running the computers and website for the weekend. Well done everyone!
To visit the website click HERE
The 2017 Australian Masters and State Team Challenge - happening this weekend in Adelaide
The twenty top Australian players who have accepted their invitations to compete in the AM will play nineteen games against their peers in the Australian Masters, with ten games on Saturday and nine on Sunday. Last year's Masters Champion Joanne Craig from New South Wales will be very keen to take the title again this year but will have some extremely tough opposition.
The State Team Challenge runs concurrently, with teams of three selected players from each state vying for the coveted title of champion Australian State team. Western Australia were victorious last year here in Melbourne and will be trying hard to repeat their victory.
Andrew Fisher, the 2009 Masters Champion, is our sole Victorian representative in the Masters, and our Victorian State team comprises Gwen Lampre, Carol Johnsen and Norma Fisher. Good luck, everyone! The Webmaster for the event is Victoria's Barry Harridge, and Barry will provide regular updates over the weekend on the designated webpage - to keep up to date with results and other news click HERE
David Eldar from Victoria Australia is the new World Scrabble Champion!
Harshan Lamabadusuriya (Sri Lanka) and David
Eldar (Australia) at the conclusion of their
MSA representative Rachael presents the
trophy to David
The top 8: Elie Dangoor, Harshan Lamabadusuriya,
Neil Scott, Nigel Richards, Mark Nyman, Goutham
Jayaraman, Austin Shin and David Eldar.
Goutham Jayaraman from Singapore plays
Austin Shin from England in a quarter-final
2009: David with mentor Don Marshall,
Rod Casey & Barry Harridge behind
2010: David plays felllow Oz whiz kid
Anand Bharadwaj, with Bridget Halge,
Andrew Fisher & Helen Maurus-Hynes
In Nottingham, after winning 21 of the 35 games in the overall competition, a 2-0 win over the world's Number One player Nigel Richards in the Quarter Final, defeating Goutham Jayaraman 3-2 in a very tight Semi Final, and defeating Harshan Lamabadusuriya 3-0 in the Final, a very ecstatic and relieved David was declared the 2017 World Champion. Congratulations, David, this is a well deserved win after many years of competing at such a high level!
Update on the 2017 Victorian Matchplay Event, August 27Progress has been made in the knockout rounds, with one semi-final left to play, between Natasha Podesser and Trevor Halsall. There have been some close matches to date - more news will follow.
Norma Fisher plays her quarter final
Andrew Fisher versus Norma Fisher
Nick Ivanovski v Dilendra Nanayakkara
Carol Johnsen plays Trevor Halsall
SF - Nick just loses 3-4 to Andrew
The A.G.M. Tournament, August 20, 2017This six game tournament was attended by 56 players, with the Annual General Meeting taking place after Game 4. Two members resigned from the Committee, and we thank both Rob York and Christiane McCann for their services to Scrabble in Victoria. All major positions were filled by the incumbents, namely President Carol Johnsen, Vice-president Norma Fisher, Secretary and Membership Officer Gwen Lampre, and Treasurer Rob Hutchinson. Members Christie Godby and Glen Chandler now fill the two vacant committee positions.
Winners in Division A: Kashi Thiris, Alan Burn,
Nick Ivanovski, Trevor Halsall
Division B winners: Dianne Gibson, Betty Egan,
Dorothy Rice, Oliver Podesser
The winners in Division C: Christiane McCann
and Elize Plaganyi
Division B was also keenly fought with Dianne Gibson finishing first on 5 wins, ahead of Oliver Podesser also on 5 wins, and Katie Rowe on 4.5 wins. The High Game Award went to Betty Egan for her score of 513, and the High Word Award went to Dorothy Rice for her lovely play of QUINTETS for 101 points.
Division C saw Elize Plaganyi with a clean sweep on 6 wins, the only player to win all 6 games - well done, Elize! Laura Khan placed second on 5 wins, followed by Christiane McCann on 4 wins. Christiane claimed both High Game and High Word Awards, scoring 501 points and playing REQUINS for 120 points, well done all.
Relaxing at lunchtime: Dorothy Rice,
Eileen Mills and Lorna Patching
Marjorie Clark, Lina Camilleri,
Dorothy Hunt and Fay Boxshall
Angie Winkler, Natasha Podesser,
Faye Leeder and Rod Casey
Enjoying the sunshine - Dominica
Krstic and Paula Messer
Full results of the AGM Tournament may be viewed in the archives - click HERE
The 2017 Victorian Country Championship ~ August 6, at Ballarat
The 2017 Champion, Sue Kyatt
The 2017 prizewinners, from left: Christiane
McCann, Carol Johnsen, Alan Burn, Sue Kyatt,
A nice break in the day, was to walk just 200m up the road to the local pub, Brown Hill pub, where we enjoyed a lovely lunch. We had ordered our lunches during the morning and they were able to be served when we arrived at the pub.
The new format for the Championship inviting all players to participate was successful in that it increased participation by 100% over that of 2016.
It was lovely to see the return of Sue Kyatt and Alistair Kane who now reside in San Remo and of course, to see Sue take out the 1st prize (6 wins) and the title of Victorian Country Champion. Sue remarked that it had been several years since she had participated in a tournament.
Carol Johnsen (5 wins) took 2nd place and Norma Fisher (5 wins) placed 3rd. Christiane McCann placed 11th winning the Highest Place (Under 1000 rating) with 4 wins. Alan Burn won High Game with 626 and Sue Kyatt won High Word with BROWNIES for 176 achieved in her game with Alan Burn where Alan was able to keep close with 3 bingos and the final scores were both in the 400's - a really good game.
Thanks to Norma Fisher, Carol Johnsen, Neville Hesketh, Val Martin, Ian Martin (standby player), Marjorie Clark and members of the Ballarat Club for their assistance in the organisation of the tournament.
To see the full results of the 2017 Victorian Country Championship click HERE
Anand Bharadwaj visits the Balwyn Club to raise money for Unicef's School-in-a-Box program!Once again the Balwyn Scrabble Club players welcomed Anand and his parents to this annual charity day to support Anand's favourite charity, which supplies educational goods to deprived areas of Africa. It was also Anand's 17th birthday, and we celebrated in style with a cake provided by Kannan and Lalitha.
To learn more about this charity visit the UNICEF website and experience the joy these educational boxes bring to disadvantaged kids - just click HERE
Four tables were set up and Anand played all members at some stage, with the balance of members playing social scrabble nearby on the dance floor. Members supplied some additional delightful afternoon tea, and all appreciated their efforts - thanks everyone, and thanks for your support on the day.
Players enjoying afternoon tea and birthday cake!
Balwyn stalwarts Marj and Rosie
Play in progress - Rosie, Barry, Anand, Kannan
Cheryle and David with Anand and Kannan
This year marked the fifth annual simultaneous Scrabble UNICEF fundraising event at Balwyn Community Cerntre, an event that was once again a resounding success, raising a total of $425 for UNICEF's School-in-a Box program.
I thank the Balwyn Community Centre for waiving the fee to use their facilities and the Balwyn Scrabble Club for their wholehearted support of this initiative. In particular, I am immensely grateful to Marj Miller, Norma Fisher, Barry Harridge, Carol Johnsen and Nick Ivanovski for publicising and promoting the event at tournaments and to Marj and the Balwyn members for their invaluable support in organising the event on the day.
All in all, it was a fun-filled afternoon, and I had a wonderful time celebrating my seventeenth with my Scrabble friends.
Lalitha had been to a wedding! Balada concentrating!
Elaine enjoyed the birthday cake
Paula, just finished her game
Rosie, Barry, Anand and Kannan
Dominica and Natasha, having fun
Matchplay Kickoff ~ July 17, 2017
The finalists, from left: Dilendra Nanayakkara, Trevor Halsall, Norma Fisher, Oliver Podesser, Carol Johnsen, Nick Ivanovski,
Natasha Podesser, and the overall winner on the day, Andrew Fisher.
The tournament prize structure allowed for prizes to not only go to the top eight who wanted to proceed but also three prizes in three ratings bands, meaning that 1 in 3 people who played on the day would end up heading home with a prize!
We welcomed Eloy Gardea back after a brief absence from tournaments and the Victorian Number 2 Andrew Fisher headlined a strong field of players.
In the end, Andrew went through the qualifier undefeated and moved into the knockout phase in style. Nick Ivanovski's final round 603 gave him High Game for the tournament.
The top eight players who wanted to proceed to the final stages were (in finishing order on the day) Andrew Fisher, Natasha Podesser, Norma Fisher, Carol Johnsen, Nick Ivanovski, Dilendra Nanayakkara, Trevor Halsall and Oliver Podesser.
Tournament Organiser and player Nick
Ivanovski, with Lorna Patching
Rating Band A Prizewinner
Rating Band A Prizewinner
Rating Band A Prizewinner
Rating Band B Prizewinner
Rating Band C Prizewinner
QF1: Andrew Fisher v Norma Fisher
QF2: Nick Ivanovski v Dilendra Nanayakkara
QF3: Natasha Podesser v Oliver Podesser
QF4: Trevor Halsall v Carol Johnsen
SF1: QF1 winner v QF2 winner
SF2: QF3 winner v QF4 winner
GF: SF1 winner v SF2 winner
The winner will take home $200 and the runner-up $100. Who will emerge victorious? Follow on this website or on Facebook. I hope everyone enjoyed the tournament and I am looking to make it bigger and better for 2018. Many thanks Nick.
Thanks to Nick Ivanovski for this report, and to see the full results of the Kickoff click HERE
This table will be updated as the knockout results come to hand, hopefully with some photos - good luck to all players, enjoy your finals!
The 2017 Victorian Scrabble Championship ~ June 10/11/12
The Winners - standing - Geoff Wright, Jane Taylor, Rod Talbot, Katie Rowe, Alan Burn, Noel
Coulter, Dianne Brumby. In front: Mythili Rudra, Jimmy Scarff, Trevor Halsall, John McNaughton.
The 2017 Champion Trevor Halsall with
TD Carol Johnsen. Well done, Trevor!
An initiative to run a concurrent event attracted insufficient numbers to make it viable, so generous Ratings Band prizes and extra High Word and High Game prizes were awarded within the Championship, and these were popular with the various winners.
This year's Champion is Victorian Trevor Halsall who had been victorious in Victoria in 2011, and more recently runner-up in the 2017 Australian Champs. Trevor was placed third at the end of Day 1, but led at the end of play on Day 2 and won six of his seven games on the final day, finishing on 19 wins with an excellent margin of +1440. Trevor was followed by three players on 16 wins - Jimmy Scarff (Victoria, margin +1153), Rod Talbot (NSW, +631) and Dianne Brumby (Tasmania, + 97). Jane Taylor from South Australia placed fifth on 15.5 wins, with a margin of +1108.
Joint winners of the Championship High Game Award were Alan Burn (Game 21), and Mythili Rudra (Game 22), both brilliantly scoring 613 points. The High Word Award went to Geoff Wright for his play of BRUNETTE for 140 points, well done, everyone.
The Ratings Band Prize for the best placed player rated 1201-1400 went to Victoria's Noel Coulter on 13 wins and 14th place overall, and New Zealand's John McNaughton was the best placed player rated below 1200, winning 12 games and finishing in 17th place overall.
High Game and High Word Awards for those rated 1400 and under were presented to John McNaughton for his great score of 569, and to Katie Rowe for her play of JESSIES scoring 110 points.
From left: Noel Barrett, Geoff Wright,
Barry Jordan, Rod Talbot
Elize Plaganyi, Marisa Nuccitelli,
Adam Kauschke, Paula Messer
The Admin staff - Barry Harridge with
TD Carol Johnsen
From left: Mythili Rudra, John Barker,
Karen Richards, Jimmy Scarff
Adam Kauschke, Latha Weerakkody,
Alan Burn, Paula Messer
To see the Top 20 Most Improved Players, and those who played the most games over the past 12 months click here
2016-17 Most Improved Player, Geoff
with Carol Johnsen
Trevor Halsall, Nick Ivanovski, Jane
Taylor, Dianne Brumby
Elize Plaganyi, Christiane McCann,
Jeff Chelton, Marisa Nuccitelli
Rob Hutchinson, Rob Marotta, Geoff
Shepheard, Glen Chandler
Some serious concentration - John
McNaughton plays Mark Tully
Thanks to everyone who helped out in any way over the weekend, as always your assistance was appreciated. This includes Norma Fisher whose contribution was enormous as always, and those who acted as reserve players, namely Christie Godby and Barry Harridge who played the final day, and also spent considerable time on improving technical matters.
To find the full results of the 2017 Vic Champs click HERE
The Cranbourne Tournament ~ May 28, 2017On a very cold morning 58 players gathered at Box Hill Community Centre for the Cranbourne Club's annual tournament on Sunday 28 May for the last warm-up before the Victorian State Championships. It was great to welcome Frances Adams from Tasmania. As usual I have to thank Barry Harridge for help with the computing program. I only use it once a year and have to be reminded of all the little tricks. Elaine Capewell, Livia Caulfield and Gayle Cameron provided a great array of snacks and comfort food all day as well as competing in the tourney. My best thanks again. This year spot prizes were awarded for words related to AUTUMN, SPORT, TRAFFIC, POLITICS, CURRENT AFFAIRS, and CLIMATE, with plenty of imagination demonstrated by players.
Recreation: Christiane McCann,
Elizabeth McKean & Rena Aitken
Inter: Kris Howat, Sylvia Galloway,
Dorothy Barraclough & Mal Eden
Advanced: Geoff Shepheard, Rod
Casy & Lainie Chojna
Masters players: Nick Ivanovski
& Natasha Podesser
Frances Adams, visiting from
Kris Howat won 1st prize in the Intermediate Section with the best margin (385) of five players all on five wins, ahead of Sylvia Galloway (margin 301) and Mal Eden (margin 270). Kris Howat also had the highest game score of 510, and Dorothy Barraclough scored 109 for SUNDECK to take the High Word award.
Geoff Shepheard had a great day winning 6 games to take out the top prize in Advanced Section, with Rod Casey in second place with 5 wins and Lynn Weaver third with 4 wins. Rod Casey had a massive High Game total of 577, and Lainie Chojna played JANGLED (98) for High Word.
In the Masters Round Robin Natasha Podesser pipped Nick Ivanovski to win with 5 games and a margin of 315. Nick was a close second with 4 games (margin 331) and Geoff Wright took out third place, also with 4 wins and a margin of 214. Nick Ivanovski walked away with both High Game (561) and High Word (MISRATED 140).
Elize Plaganyi plays Lauru Khan
Dianne Davis versus Alan Burn
Annette Casey plays Tim Whiting
Rob Hutchinson & Lorraine Thomas
John Metcalf with Gayle Cameron
To check the full results of the 2017 Cranbourne event click HERE
Victoria wins the Tristate Challenge! May 13/14, 2017
Serious play in progress at the Gundagai RSL, a pleasant venue.
In the foreground Tony Williams (ACT) plays Christie Godby (Victoria)
A different format was used this year, with the four highest ranked players from each state doing battle in Division A, and all other participants competing in Division B, with as many interstate games played as possible - thanks to John for devising the program, and keeping everything in order over the weekend.
Overall results saw Victoria win 56.19% of games played against the other states, New South Wales were second winning 47.03%, with the ACT close behind, winning 45.78% of their games.
Individually Bob Jackman (NSW) placed first in Div A, followed by Joanne Craig and Rocky Sharma, also from NSW, so it was a clean sweep to NSW in the top section. Joanne Craig's score of 526 won the High Game award in Div A, and Noel Barrett from the ACT played COWRIES to win the High Word Award.
Division B was won by Mark Tully from Victoria, with Barry Harridge (Vic) second and Sharon Sorenson (NSW) in third place. The High Game award went to John Barker (NSW) for his score of 566, and Rene Chelton (NSW) played MAGAZINE for 126 points to win the Div B High Word award. Well played, everyone.
Team New South Wales
The Australian Capital Territory Team
The famous Dog on the Tuckerbox at
Snake Gully, 5 miles from Gundagai
Organiser John Hamilton hard at work,
well done, John
Angie Pearse, representing Victoria,
plays Natalya Grace-Jones from NSW
Happy players Noel Coulter and Alan
Burn, both from Victoria
Arie Holla from NSW competes against
Balada Catanchin from Victoria
The Nunawading Annual Tournament, April 30 2017
The winners - Mythili Rudra, Diyath Visidagamage,
John McNaughton, Gayle Cameron, Elize Plaganyi,
Katie Rowe, and Mal Eden
The High Game and High Word Winners - Lorraine
Thomas: HG Sections A-D, Lynne Goodinson: HW
Sections D-H, Elize Plaganyi: HW Sections D-H,
Shirley De Silva: HW Sections A-D.
The Nunawading Club hosted a happy Round Robin competition on 30 April with 60 participants including 3 novices (Elaine McGinnes, Phil Moller and Diyath Visidagamage) and we also welcomed John McNaughton from New Zealand, and Shirley De Silva on his annual trip from Sri Lanka.
Winners for each section were Mythili Rudra, Diyath Visidagamage, Katie Rowe, Mal Eden, John McNaughton, Gayle Cameron and Elize Plaganyi. In the top divisions Shirley De Silva won the prize for High Word with TRANNIES for 131 and Lorraine Thomas won High Game with 528. In divisions F-H Elize Plaganyi won High Word with TAXLESS for 119, and Lynne Goodinson won High Game with 571, the highest game score for the whole tournament.
First time player Elaine McGinnes with
friends from the Balwyn Club, Lynn
Weaver and mischievous Rod Casey!
Good times at Scrabble - John
McNaughton from New Zealand, with
Diyath Visidagamage from Sri Lanka
New players Phil Moller and Elaine
McGinnes, who both play at the
Nunawading and Balwyn Clubs
Shirley De Silva
from Sri Lanka,
Friends from earlier WYSC events -
Diyath Visidagamage, Barry Harridge
and John McNaughton
Thanks again to Tournament Director and Computer Operator, Marj Miller, and Barry Harridge who gave invaluable assistance when there were some technical difficulties. The Nunawading Club again will host a Round Robin next year, and thank you to all players for supporting us this year.
To check the full results of the 2017 Nunawading event click HERE
The National Champs & Plate, in Perth, April 15-17, 2017
The top three! Trevor Halsall 2nd, 2017 Champion
Russell Honeybun, Esther Perrins 3rd
The 2017 Plate winner, Susan
Roberts from South Australia
Sharvin, best performed
Junior player overall
Young players - Liana, Rahul, Kaustav, Radheya
and Sharvin, with Karen Richards
The lead changed several times early in the Championship, with Hubert Wee, Esther Perrins, Gerry Carter, Tim Mason and Russell Honeybun leading the field at various times, but from Game 15 onwards Russell Honeybun rose to the top of the table, and stayed there for the rest of the tournament, a brilliant effort indeed. This is the first time that a Western Australian player has been crowned the Australian Scrabble Champion, congratulations, Russ, there's no place like your home state in which to do so well!
The Vic players: Andrew Fisher, Khwanjai Thammaping,
Barry Harridge (Webmaster), Latha Weerakkody, Peter
Bauer, Carol Johnsen, Nick Ivanovski, Geoff Shepheard,
Paula Messer, Heather Long, John Rider, Christiane
McCann, Elize Plaganyi, Angie Pearse
The keen players who travelled from Queensland:
Jack Ashwin, Caroline Scowcroft, Paul Richards,
Karen Richards, Shekinah Giffen, Arnold Appelhoff,
Patti Ashwin, and Ben Munson
The crew from South Australia: Fiona Braendler, Daniel
Piechnick, Carmel Dodd, Jane Taylor, Susan Roberts,
Antony Kimber, Francoise Finlayson, Barry Jordan,
Emanuel Atsas, Oliver Jenner-O'Shea, Helen Jones,
The Champ, Russell
Honeybun, during play
Trevor Halsall, 2nd
New South Wales, 3rd
New South Wales, 5th
South Australia, 7th
Daniel Piechnick and Sharvin with the
Plate winner, Susan Roberts
Rene Chelton, New
South Wales, Plate 2nd
John Hayes, Tasmania,
Angie Pearse, Victoria,
High Rating Gain overall
Carolyn Watt, WA,
High Word Champs
Liz Jackman, NSW,
High Word Plate
Webmaster Barry Harridge with
Tournament Director Wilma Vialle
Next year's Championship and Plate will be held in the nation's capital Canberra, from March 31st - April 2nd. To check the full results of the 2017 National Championship & Plate click HERE
Heading to the National Championship & Plate in Perth, Easter 2017
To follow the ups and downs of the players over the weekend click HERE
Trevor Halsall in 2016
Wilma Vialle and Barry Harridge
A celebration dinner will take place on Monday evening at the venue, following completion of play.
The W.A. committee has worked tirelessly to have everything in place for the start, and will continue to be busy over the next few days. Also on the admin side Wollongong's Wilma Vialle is the Tournament Director, and Victoria's Barry Harridge has travelled to Perth to fill the position of Webmaster, good luck with everything, everyone.
Once again John Hamilton is conducting his Fantasy Dream Team competition, and full details can be found HERE Here are our contenders, with current ratings. The first eight are playing in the Championship, and the latter six in the Plate - we should do well!